Rick Warren Teams With Obama, Angers Pharisees
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EDIT ADD: Newsweek has a new interview with Kay Warren on the subject posted. And Time has a column on the controversy that smartly recognizes the parallels between this controversy for Warren and the controversy that Billy Graham used to walk through because of his actions during the civil rights era.
Rick Warren Teams with Obama - Angers Small-Minded Christians
Or: Why A Sinless Life Is Not Required To Enter A Church
Today the LA Times and the Orange County register both featured, on the front pages of their respective Local sections, articles on Rick Warren and the controversy that has errupted with the arrival of Barak Obama to Saddleback to speak at Warren's second AIDS conference. It's remarkable that both of the major newspapers in the area find the story to be so important, though it's also sad that the press is showing just how small-minded some of us in the church continue to be. The LA Times goes even further, and writes an editorial today on how both George W. Bush and the Christian church are not getting enough credit for their work against the AIDS crisis. (Links: LA Times article, OC Register article, LA Times editorial)
Though Warren has been explicitly clear that he does not endorse or agree with many of Obama's other political stances (on issues such as abortion), he recognizes that you have to build teams and work with people outside the typical evangelical community to affect real change on a mass scale for a crisis of this magnitude.
Quoting the Times article; pay particular attention to the bolded areas in the middle:
They came from different worlds: Rick Warren was the conservative white pastor of a 20,000-strong evangelical church in Orange County; Illinois Sen. Barack Obama was a liberal black politician, and a rising star in the Democratic Party... Some evangelicals had already criticized Warren for his different approach toward AIDS, which included working with gays. But the speech by the pro-choice potential presidential contender has drawn renewed vitriol from conservative Christian radio hosts and pundits, as well as some evangelical preachers...
"Why would Warren marry the moral equivalency of his pulpit — a sacred piece of honor in evangelical traditions — to the inhumane, sick and sinister evil that Obama has worked for as a legislator?" wrote radio host and blogger Kevin McCullough...
Saddleback Church responded to the criticism with a statement Wednesday defending Obama's appearance at the conference, but also noted Warren's disapproval of some of his political beliefs. "Our goal has been to put people together who normally won't even speak to each other. We do not expect all participants in the Summit discussion to agree with all of our Evangelical beliefs. However, the HIV/AIDS pandemic cannot be fought by Evangelicals alone." ...
"Evangelicals have been really afraid," she [Kay Warren] said. "They don't want to talk about condoms. They don't want to talk about HIV because that means having to talk about sex. We want to break that kind of silence."
Kay Warren became aware of the vastness of the problem in 2002, after she read a news magazine article about the 12 million orphans the disease had left in Africa. This discovery spurred her to visit Mozambique, where she met an emaciated woman lying beneath a tree who was dying of AIDS. Warren grew angry that everyone — the woman's family, her church, her government — had abandoned her. Then, she realized she, her husband and their church in an affluent Orange County community were guilty of the same indifference.
"We had done nothing, we had done absolutely nothing," she said. "That hit me like a ton of bricks. Instead of being judgmental about what wasn't being done in other places, since we were doing nothing, we had to come back and repent. We have been so wrong. We haven't cared. We haven't said one word."
The fruit of that revelation is unfolding today at Saddleback Church, where hundreds of scientists, pastors and caregivers will meet at the AIDS conference.
"I have no doubt if Jesus were walking the Earth today, he would be hanging out with people with AIDS," said Rick Warren, author of "The Purpose-Driven Life," the Hawaiian shirt-wearing founder of Saddleback and among the nation's most influential evangelical preachers.
His wife was the catalyst who drove his concern over the disease. "I realized the face of AIDS was more than just a white gay guy," he said. "It's all kinds, black, brown, women and children, much bigger than I realized. I had no idea what a big deal it was."
The Warrens believe that the vast network of houses of worship throughout the world, acting in concert with government, businesses and nonprofits, can provide medical treatment, nutrition and services to people with AIDS. While they do not condone some of the behavior that may lead to the spread of AIDS, the Warrens said it is their sacred duty to show mercy to anyone the disease afflicts.A broad range of speakers from the medical community, relief organizations and religious groups from around the world will discuss the problem, and how local churches can help solve it. Rock singer Bono, Bill and Melinda Gates and Sen. Bill Frist (R-Tenn.) will deliver messages via videotape. In addition to Obama, addressing the conference will be evangelical leader Franklin Graham, and Sen. Sam Brownback (R-Kan.), another potential presidential candidate.
"While we will never see eye-to-eye on all issues, surely we can come together with one voice to honor the entirety of Christ's teachings by working to eradicate the scourge of AIDS, poverty and other challenges we all can agree must be met," Obama said in a written statement.
Warren said creating a forum where people of differing viewpoints can discuss their beliefs and possible solutions is key to slowing the spread of AIDS.
"Republicans, Democrats, gay, straight, Christians, Jews, Muslims — can we not work on some of these issues together?" he asked.
No is the answer some evangelicals give. Warren's willingness to work with people he disagrees with has drawn the wrath of some conservatives, as has his support of condom use outside of marriage to prevent AIDS.
"You can't work together with people totally opposed to what you are," said Wiley S. Drake, pastor of First Southern Baptist Church in Buena Park and second vice president of the 42,000-church Southern Baptist Convention. "This kind of conference is just going to lead people astray."
AIDS activists also question the Warrens' sincerity, given their belief that homosexuality is a sin.
"This is a group that's going to have to prove their good work before the AIDS community and the worldwide health community trust them," said Craig Thompson, executive director of AIDS Project Los Angeles.
Progress appears be taking place, albeit slowly. Alan Witchey, executive director of the AIDS Services Foundation of Orange County, didn't attend last year's conference because he had no interest in what the Warrens had to say. But his organization and the Warrens have had conversations in recent months, and Saddleback Church has conducted food drives for the foundation.
"Five years ago, if you had said to me, 'Would you ever sit down at a table with an evangelical group and talk about how to collaboratively provide services?' I would have thought that couldn't happen," he said.
Well, when you look at the quote from Wiley Drake, can you blame him for feeling that way? Mr. Drake apparently feels that Mr. Obama is "totally opposed to what" he is. Well, maybe in the case of Drake this is true. But his point is not. Let's be clear. Just because a person does not line up lock-step with orthodox Christian theology, thought, behavior, and lifestyle does not mean that person is or should ever be persona non grata in or to the church. Nor does it in any way disqualify them from being able to team with us, the church, on something as important as the AIDS crisis, or anything else for that matter.
People who think like Drake, and the rest of the protesting mob, fail to comprehend why the church today is so hated and misunderstood by those who do not know Christ. As John Fischer has previously stated, you do not have to clean up before you come to church; those who do not yet know Christ are not supposed to be acting like Christians, because they're not - they're lost. And when someone is lost you do not berate them for being lost; you instead hand them a roadmap and show them the way. Drake's attitude does just the opposite. He states or implies that a man like Senator Obama is somehow unworthy of being associated with us - the evangelical church. Last time I checked, Mr. Drake, the whole lot of us were unworthy of even touching the shadow of Jesus Christ, our savior. Luckily for us, Jesus extends us his unmerited favor. Maybe by doing the same with the world around us we might actually start to make a bigger difference in their lives.
Furthermore, these kinds of attitudes just make the church look stupid. And I mean that literally. It also makes us look cruel. Things like the AIDS crisis are serious life and death matters. People are dying. And instead of putting aside differences and working as a team, Drake and his buddies nitpick and play the role of the pious morality police. As if a dying child cares what the politics of someone like Obama are, as long as Obama wants to help. A non-Christian looks at an article like this and more often than not doesn't note that Warren wants to help, but instead notes how Drake is more concerned about politics than loving the dying.
I wonder... if Drake were on the side of the road in a ditch, dying, if he would accept help from Obama? Or would he reject it, because Obama is "totally opposed" to what he is. After all, you just can't work with a guy like him, right Mr. Drake?
And I also wonder if Drake would let Obama enter his church on a Sunday morning, and if he would make Obama feel welcome and wanted. If not, the one who needs to re-examine their heart here is more Drake than anyone else.
The politics of abortion, gay marriage, or any other controversial issue are not what matters here. None of those things disqualify a person from the grace of God, nor do they disqualify someone from entering into community and working with the church. Too many of us in the church today are so appalled by the stances that others take on those issues that it has blinded us in ways that are not becoming to our identities as Christ-followers. We need to move past that, and take our cues from Jesus, not the old religious right movement of the 1980's.
Jesus was a friend of sinners. He loved, and came to seek and save, the lost. Looking at the story above, who is acting with the love of Christ, and who is the Pharisee? And which side do you want to be on?
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